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Showing posts with label amd. Show all posts
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Saturday, October 28, 2006

"Kentsfield" coming soon

Extremetech are reporting that the with a shipping date of around 15 November.

As I've mentioned previously, the Kentsfield is more like a dual dual-core rather than a true quad-core implementation. The real quad-core goodness probably won't launch until first or second quarter next year.

AMD are expected to launch their 4x4 quadish-core solution around the same time, according to the same article.

Friday, September 22, 2006

AMD Torrenza - Open Hardware Continues

Hot on the heels of my discovery of the initiative of , I've come late to yet another open hardware party - Torrenza. Torrenza is a "socket compatibility" technology, where AMD has opened up the design for their sockets (the CPU technology they use for servers and other high-end uses) so that other "silicon designers" can design and build in a preexisting x86 environment with supported motherboards and chipsets that will already be in production, with resulting savings in economy of scale.

(, for anyone that isn't entirely familiar, is the basic processor architecture for just about all CPUs currently produced for consumers today. The x86 title stems from the early chips which would be most familiar to people as the old 286, 386 and 486 processors produced by Intel. The 86 nomenclature was eventually dropped in favour of names that could be trademarked (eg Pentium, Athlon) but as the basic architecture has remained the same, the x86 designation has remained to describe the family of processor technologies. While there have been a range of additions to the architecture such as AMDs x86-64 (among others) which changed the architecture from 32bit to 64bit, the basics are still the same, even with new multi-core processors)

While back in June 2006, it's in the news again this week as with a range of partners including Sun, , and . I'm still undecided as to whether this is a forward-thinking, strategic move from AMD to make sure that their motherboards become first choice through providing greater choice of processors, or if its a move of desperation as they battle to maintain market share in the server market.

Not being tapped into the scene in any shape or form, I guess I'm just going to have to wait and see.

Thursday, September 21, 2006

Hot Chips: AMD Quad-core "Barcelona" and the logic behind the merger with ATI

Quad-core has a name, and that name is Barcelona.

Barcelona

spoke to about their upcoming multi-core solutions, in particular their latest quad-core technology, the Barcelona (can tell how much fun I'm having typing Barcelona? You should hear how I'm saying it - dodgy fake Spanish accents are a lot of fun - try saying Antonio Banderas in one and you will know what I mean).

Barcelona is due for release "mid-2007" and will be a "native" quad-core solution with four cores in the one chip as compared to Kentsfield "Quadro" which looks like it will be just two Core2 Duo dual processors crammed together on the one die, soaking up Watts and pumping out heat.

Who will use four cores?

Even with all these multi-cored beasties powering around, there's precious little software that has been designed to take advantage of the latest and greatest in chip design. Most software that can take advantage of a multi-core setup is used for things such as image manipulation, video rendering or audio tracking.

AMD have said that they are looking for games designed for consoles to lead the way, as the has a (each core is dual-threaded so it can do 6 threads at once) and the will have the chip with 7 of the 8 supporting processors activated (although one will be used for the PS3 operation system) and a controlling PowerPC core. As gaming houses get used to developing titles that support multi-threaded systems, they must be hoping that this skill set and knowledge will leak across to the PC market.

There will probably be benefits in decoding high-def TV on the fly and other media applications, and there will be potential for some parallel computing. It will be good when virtualisation software also begins to take advantage of the support being provided in the hardware which could allow for different operating systems to be run on individual cores. Aw yeah.

AMD and ATI

One of the key product developments that will come out of the AMD and ATI merger will be lower power, highly optimised CPU/GPU combinations on a single die for notebooks and lower-range desktops, possibly inside the next 18 months. There is a strong market for this sort of product in the corporate area, where desktop computers have no need for a separate graphics card, as well as the ability to pack more into a notebook/laptop chassis while taking up less space and at the very least, consuming no more power or creating no more heat than present technology and configurations.

There's also the growing markets for powerful but lower-speed x86 processors in set-top boxes, mobile communication devices (phones, Blackberries etc) and (UMPC). ATI already has a large presence in the graphics processing side of these markets. AMD will now be in a position to develop units to compete with likes of or , particularly as software for these smaller and more mobile devices becomes increasingly complex. I had that this is the way they AMD and ATI might be heading, it's nice to see that confirmed by people who are actually in the know.

Sunday, September 17, 2006

Hot Chips: AMD Quad Core still not arriving until Q2/07

It would seem that are still on track with their CPU production, which means that their long awaited chips won't be arriving until sometime in the 2nd Quarter of 2007, at least according to this Inquirer (it is the Inquirer so have your industrial-sized salt shaker handy before ingestion)

Is this too little too late for AMD? With pushing out their Kentsfield quad-core options now (probably by Q4/06, based on the Tom's Hardware preview I blogged about ) and likely to have cooler and less power hungry versions by Q2/07, AMD look like they're going to have a tough battle on their hands if they want to keep taking market share from Intel.

With any luck these duelling cores will push existing dual-core solutions even further down in price, which can only increase the chances I will have of moving away from my sad little Sempron 2500+ into some cpu goodness.

And in the end, isn't that what technological advance is all about?

Edit: Forgot to include the story link. Idiot. All fixed now.

Sunday, September 10, 2006

AMD + ATI merger: trying to make sense of it all.

While it probably isn't news to anyone that cares, the merger between CPU maker and graphics chipset maker has been given from competition regulators in the US (home of AMD), Canada (home of ATI) and Germany (where most of AMD's chip fabrication plants are located). As the pieces finish falling in to place, I'm still trying to work out the ramifications of the marriage between the two major market players. It's not an easy task for a faceless government administrator, so I can only build my knowledge based on what scraps of information leak into the public domain from industry insiders.

What is the merger going to do the market place? Prior to the formation of the mega-corp, the CPU and graphics markets were fairly even split: and ATI battled it out in the graphics and motherboard chipset market while and AMD tussled for market share with CPUs. Intel was still market leader but AMD had been steadily eroding that advantage for some time, particularly in the enthusiast market where AMD was considered to have better bang for buck. Both NVIDIA and ATI made chipsets for motherboards that supported both Intel and AMD. In fact, most motherboards for the new were based on NVIDIA chipsets.

The AMD-ATI merger leaves a number of questions that I don't have the capacity to answer (and would love it if someone could point me towards someone who can) :

  • what does this mean for motherboard chipsets? Will NVIDIA still make NForce chipsets for AMD? Will ATI still make chipsets for Intel chips? I hate seeing competition reduced in any market
  • what is the future of NVIDIA? Will it need to enter into exclusive agreements with Intel in order to survive, or is it big enough and bad enough to manufacture and develop for both parties?
  • related to the above points, one of the dangers of vertical integration is the inclination to favour your own product over a competitors. Even if NVIDIA continues to develop products for AMD, will the development environment remain open?
There are substantial benefits for AMD in the merger. ATI technology is the basis for both the and the (NVIDIA is supplying the graphics tech for the ). AMD missed out on supplying the CPUs for the Xbox, but now they have an "in" through ATI, as well as a new business partnership with IBM, who have developed the multi-cored PowerPC chips for the Xbox. ATI also have a growing business in mobile graphics technology, particularly for handhelds and mobile phones.

What could be more exciting for the partnership are the future development options. While the current focus in CPUs appears to be multiple cores, it surely can't be too long before the focus switches to integration with other areas. We already have "integrated graphics" on most motherboards (particularly on corporate systems where a graphics card makes no sense cost wise). I would imagine the next logical step is to integrate entire graphics processing units (GPUs) into the chipset as well. Current PCI-e technology is fast, but whenever information is shifted through a PCI bus, there has to be a performance hit of some kind. Moving the GPU on die would reduce that hit (if not eradicate it completely). AMD and ATI are now in the perfect position to begin development on this CPU/GPU integration. In the short term, this is likely to manifest in integrated (but not on-die) solutions like the rumoured platform for notebooks which will see an AMD-ATI collaboration with third party Wi-Fi.

There are flow-on effects from this integration as well. Current high-def DVD set top players are pretty much just a small computer running in a pretty box that fits in with your home theatre setup. Imagine the potential leap on your competitors if you could be the first one t0 market with an "all-in-one" solution for high-def playback - fast CPU and excellent on-die graphics in one small package. I'm not sure what the heat implications are, but no graphics card means one less fan in the system. Less noise = home theatre goodness.

The one thing I haven't picked up much noise on is the possibilities surrounding development, which will compete with physics processing unit (PPU) solutions such as Ageia PhysX. The Ageia PPU is a separate PCI card (although a variation of the technology will be used with the PS3) which can be used for physics acceleration, presently lusted after in the gaming arena. The ATI solution involves adding a third graphics card which be transformed into a dedicated PPU. I'm not sure of the physical realities regarding available slots (especially if you're using two cards for a Crossfire set up and want to add a card for PPU work) but I'm sure that if the software can combine all the cards together, then surely the potential to use the technology on-die isn't far away. With multi-cores already in use and quad-core , the next logical step (to me anyway) is many cores serving different functions. What's to stop a multi-cored CPU to also have additional GPUs and PPUs or other general, programmable PUs waiting to be used (maybe even dynamically?).

The AMD-ATI merger is going to have its problems. Merging two large corporations generally does. However, once the initial teething troubles are put to rest, I think the new entity will be a force to be reckoned with. Integrated GPUs, physics processing, mobile graphics, consumer set top boxes - many fingers in many pies.

It's an exciting time to be alive and watching the hardware game right now.

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